{"id":2492,"date":"2010-11-05T01:55:13","date_gmt":"2010-11-05T01:55:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ofah.net\/blog\/?p=2492"},"modified":"2010-11-05T14:56:13","modified_gmt":"2010-11-05T14:56:13","slug":"only-fools-vs-rock-and-chips","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ofah.net\/blog\/only-fools-vs-rock-and-chips\/","title":{"rendered":"Only Fools Vs Rock and Chips"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"d7386eeb5bdcd2f43c1295b58ceaf130\" data-index=\"3\" style=\"float: right; margin:5px 0 5px 5px;\">\n<amp-auto-ads type=\"adsense\"\r\n              data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-1609637348681190\">\r\n<\/amp-auto-ads>\n<\/div>\n<p>Just had an interesting discussion recently with mega-fools-fan Pete Manning. He had a sneaky feeling that there are quite a few\u00a0inconsistencies\u00a0between Only Fools and Horses and Rock and Chips. He felt if you go with the idea that the episodes reflect the date of broadcast it would give a few mistakes.<\/p>\n<p>We decided that it would be interesting to allow him to dig deeper to see whether there was any substance in his theories and asked him to set out and write an article on his findings&#8230;..over to Pete&#8230;.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Are their date contradictions between Only Fools and Rock and Chips?<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>In the Wikipedia page there is a reference to the confusion of Del\u2019s age and how the different<br \/>\nepisodes contradict. <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Del_Boy\">http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Del_Boy<\/a><\/p>\n<p>This article will look at these facts and also add some of my own theories.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2493\" style=\"width: 560px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ofah.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/Del-Rock-Chips.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2493\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2493\" title=\"Del-Rock-&amp;-Chips\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ofah.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/Del-Rock-Chips-550x414.jpg\" alt=\"Only Fools Vs Rock and Chips\" width=\"550\" height=\"414\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ofah.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/Del-Rock-Chips-550x414.jpg 550w, https:\/\/www.ofah.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/Del-Rock-Chips-530x399.jpg 530w, https:\/\/www.ofah.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/Del-Rock-Chips.jpg 730w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2493\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Only Fools Vs Rock and Chips<\/p><\/div>\n<p>So let\u2019s look at some other facts from Rock and Chips\u00a0and compare to OFAH \u2013 taking each with a slight<br \/>\npinch of salt \u2013 after all it\u2019s only a comedy.<\/p><div class=\"d7386eeb5bdcd2f43c1295b58ceaf130\" data-index=\"2\" style=\"float: none; margin:5px 0 5px 0; text-align:center;\">\n<script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- ofah2-response -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-1609637348681190\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"5593259115\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n\n<ul>\n<li>We now know for certain that Rodney was born in November 1960.<\/li>\n<li>In the episode Big Brother we are introduced to the characters, this suggest that the details\u00a0in this are reasonably accurate:\n<ul>\n<li>Del states that Joan was 39 when she fell for Rodney<\/li>\n<li>This would mean that Joan was born in 1921<\/li>\n<li>Del states that there was 13 years between him and Rodney<\/li>\n<li>This would therefore suggest that Del was born in 1947<\/li>\n<li>However it could also mean that he was actually 14<\/li>\n<li>This is as he actually says \u201cWhen she fell for you\u201d so that would of been 9\u00a0months before.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>In Rock and Chips\u00a0\u2013 Del and Co are told to \u201cleave\u201d School due to the leaving age being\u00a0changed. This is actually incorrect as it was not even proposed that the leaving age was to\u00a0be changed to 16 until 1964. Therefore as the leaving age in 1960 was 15 \u2013 then it would\u00a0make Del the age of 14 and nearly 15. It was not unusual for teens of this age to be in pubs.\u00a0As we know that \u201cthe Nags head\u201d was a little dodgy this would have been fine.<\/li>\n<li>This also fits with the episode Class of 62 as Del would have been 16 by then and that would\u00a0have been the age he would have had to leave school. Of course what is not clear in Rock and Chips\u00a0is IF Del ever went back to school. We know for example in \u201cfatal Extraction\u201d that he was\u00a0meant to sit his O-Levels; this would mean he would have had to have still been registered at\u00a0the school at the age of 15\/16. The 2nd Volume of scripts also suggests that Del did return to\u00a0school however as this uses the word Dunce in the name of the school, this is doubtful.<\/li>\n<li>In Go West Young Man \u2013 Del tells Rodney not to say that he is 35. In 81 he would of been\u00a034\/35 as we do not know the time of year this was set this would tie in with Del being born\u00a0in 1947<\/li>\n<li>In Happy Returns (1985) \u2013 Del meets June who has a daughter Debbie who is about to turn\u00a019. This would mean that June was pregnant in 1966, so Del would have been either 19 or\u00a0nearly 20.<\/li>\n<li>We also know that Rodney was attending college \u2013 in Big Brother he would have been 21\u00a0\u2013 we also know that in Wanted he has not yet finished his suspended sentence this would\u00a0mean that at the time of BB he was at Art College or had just been chucked out.<\/li>\n<li>In Healthy Competition from Series 3 \u2013 Rodney states that he is now 24. Assuming this is\u00a0based on the time of broadcast then this would be about right.<\/li>\n<li>The main issue really is when Reg left Del\/Rodney \u2013 now we know this was on his 16th\u00a0Birthday so assuming this would be 1963, which means that Joan must have died before \u201964\u00a0as shown on the tombstone in \u201cThe Yellow Peril\u201d. It is possible however that Del told\u00a0Rodney he was 16 to enforce the idea of it being a \u201cspecial\u201d birthday and therefore how bad\u00a0Reg was to leave them then.<\/li>\n<li>There is also contradiction in the 2nd volume of the scripts. As in this it clearly states that Del\u00a0was born in 1948 but that Joan and Reg were married before Del was born and yet according\u00a0to episode \u201cmiracle of Peckham\u201d Del claims that he was a \u201cbabe in arms\u201d when they were\u00a0married.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Overall it seems that Del was born in \u201947 with Rodney born in 1960, to tie in with what is said then\u00a0Joan must of been born in 1921 \u2013 the problem here is that in Rock and Chips\u00a0she looks at a picture of what we\u00a0assume is herself and her Mum and she then remembers the Blitz but by which time she would of\u00a0been in her 20\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>There are certainly some areas that do not tie in \u2013 however we do know that Del Boy likes to\u00a0exaggerate things about the past especially to Rodney and therefore the \u201cmix up\u201d of dates could be\u00a0down to this or John Sullivan\u2019s lack of checking his notes.<\/p>\n<p>END<\/p>\n<p>What do you think, has Pete got some interesting points, or has he missed something?<\/p>\n<!--CusAds0-->\n<div style=\"font-size: 0px; height: 0px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0; padding: 0; clear: both;\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ofah.net\/blog\/only-fools-vs-rock-and-chips\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"125\" src=\"\" class=\"alignright wp-post-image tfe\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" \/><\/a><p>Just had an interesting discussion recently with mega-fools-fan Pete Manning. He had a sneaky feeling that there are quite a few\u00a0inconsistencies\u00a0between Only Fools and Horses and Rock and Chips. He felt if you go with the idea that the episodes reflect the date of broadcast it would give a few mistakes. We decided that it [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[53,25,28],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2492","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-featured","category-only-fools-and-horses","category-rock-and-chips"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Only Fools Vs Rock and Chips<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Just had an interesting discussion recently with mega-fools-fan Pete Manning. 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